Didn't you ask what was the point of me posting something that happened in 2003? Nice consistency Steph.

And haven't you complained many times about how underhanded attacks on Kerry's records were? Hmmm...again with do as I say...

So it is ok to question his war record on hearsay but not Obama's association with many questionable dealings and people?

There are several very important differences:
The difference in your 2003 story is that Rep. Lee isn't at all important at this point in time to the country and your story was altered two years after the fact to support a racist spin on the story.

McCain is running for president and using his POW history as a qualification.
I've belonged to a POW/MIA families group and McCain's contentious relations with such groups are well-documented.

Senate Select Committee hearings have transcripts and witnesses - so it would not be hearsay to quote them. There are often newspaper accounts of the proceedings. Former lawmakers like Sen. Bob Smith (R-NH), Rep. Robert Dornan (R-CA), or Senate staffers can easily be traced and leave document trails.

"And haven't you complained many times about how underhanded attacks on Kerry's records were? Hmmm...again with do as I say..."
No, I haven't. So there's no 'do as I say' involved.

Hmmm I agree with GS!!!

Steph, it is the same thing. It is dirty politics trying to nose into every nook and cranny of all the candidates lives. This is no different than the attacks on Kerry. And I don't want to go through your numerous comments to find a kerry reference, but you made one maybe a month or two ago about how sleazy the attacks were. But this is hearsay. It is he said/he said. And steph, someone posting a blog is just someone posting a blog. Hell, sugar is at the end of all of them. How seriously can you take this? So what if I posted something from 2003? So what if YOU deem it irrelevant. I couldn't care less really. No one forced you into the Conservative Sugar group to read it.

This is neither a nook nor a cranny of McCain's life - this is his behavior in the U.S. military, and how as a U.S. Senator he dealt with the families of remaining POWs and MIAs. Public Service, not nooks and crannies, not private.
These are public hearings, public records, public fights - with transcripts, witnesses and reporting - not off the record claims, interpretations or rumors. There is a huge difference in the quality of information.

If this is the depths to which the opposition is stooping in an attempt to discredit McCain, he may be a better candidate than I thought.

Also, we know the North Vietnamese were above reproach, and would never have lied or forged documents to fabricate these stories.

And any sane person would choose to remain in a prison camp just to preserve his credibility. A collaborator would at least have had a few perks, like food and fewer beatings, which have never been claimed.
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
-- Ronald Reagan

Do the names Lucier or Dornan ring any bells with you?

Steph not that long ago in the Australian Press they had an interview with McCain's captors. They stated they "did not torture" him. So yo think they would tell the truth? Also McCAin admits to be broken in Hanoi. Do yo think you could have done better?
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"Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return. No misfortune, no injury, no humiliation can destroy it."

Of course they didn't torture him Sam. I'm sure he broke all his fingers and screwed up his shoulders all on his own to maintain his cover. /sarcasm

My favorite part is that MSM is avoiding it. If the overly Liberal MSM is avoiding it you know "just how factual" this film is. It is film since in the 60's in Vietnam there was no video. Please use accurate terms.
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"Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return. No misfortune, no injury, no humiliation can destroy it."

EX-Rep. Robert Dornan (R-CA) & Ex- senate James Lucier
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"Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return. No misfortune, no injury, no humiliation can destroy it."

should have said Ex senate staffer J. Lucier (I keep wanting to type lucifer)
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"Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return. No misfortune, no injury, no humiliation can destroy it."

A video of hearsay 20+ years after the fact is not solid evidence.
Granted, the source is "iffy", but we know the MSM are not unbiased, so I'd be willing to consider it if it was well-substantiated.

I don't care if it's Dornan and Lucier, or the Pope. If they weren't direct witnesses to the events in question, their allegations are worthless.

If documents were held back, how can anyone know why they were held?
Much less say "for no reason."
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
-- Ronald Reagan

Also, I did a quick google search to see if I could find any corroborating information on this report.

All I find is Rosenfeld's article on a few wing-nut blogs.

As with Obama, IMO you're known by the company you keep.
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
-- Ronald Reagan